
Ismar and Frank explore of how small, everyday actions can shape our lives and communities. Ismar shares how the simple act of walking transformed his health and mindset, while also reflecting on how many people around him in Brazil seem disconnected from their own well-being and from collective responsibility. The conversation gently touches on big ideas—personal responsibility, social connection, environmental awareness—while remaining grounded in the small details of daily life. Through it all, Ismar resists the notion of being a “hero,” expressing quiet scepticism about his power to influence others, yet offering a sincere glimpse into the ripple effects of living with intention.